Re: [sv-ac] negated boolean proposal


Subject: Re: [sv-ac] negated boolean proposal
From: John Havlicek (john.havlicek@motorola.com)
Date: Thu Oct 16 2003 - 07:07:44 PDT


Roy:

Can you be more specific about what you have in mind?
I have the following questions about it.

* Does it require changing to immediate booleans?

* Does it require rewriting the entire SVA formal semantics?

* Will it cause significant disruption of the current alignment
  between SVA and PSL semantics?

* How significant is the change in practice?

Best regards,

John H.

>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for raising this issue. The difference in the semantics between
> 1. on one hand and 3.,4.,5. on the other hand is indeed bothering. At
> the same time, I believe that 1. and 2. should have exactly the same
> meaning - the difference between "!" and "not" is only syntactic.
>
> I believe that there is no real dilemma here and we can make all of
> 1.-5. equivalent, but it requires some work, much more than the small
> change in your proposal. However, I am willing to invest this work for
> the benefit of all the future SVAs that are going to be written out
> there.
>
> I wonder what is the committee's take on this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roy
>
>
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> <P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
> FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">Thanks for raising this issue.&nbsp; The =
> difference in the semantics between 1. on one hand and 3.,4.,5. on the =
> other hand is indeed bothering.&nbsp; At the same time, I believe that =
> 1. and 2. should have exactly the same meaning - the difference between =
> &quot;!&quot; and &quot;not&quot; is only syntactic.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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> <P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
> FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">I believe that there is no real dilemma here and =
> we can make all of 1.-5. equivalent, but it requires some work, much =
> more than the small change in your proposal.&nbsp; However, I am =
> willing to invest this work for the benefit of all the future SVAs that =
> are going to be written out there.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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> <P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
> FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">I wonder what is the committee's take on =
> this?</FONT></SPAN></P>
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> <P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
> FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></P>
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> <P DIR=3DLTR><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 =
> FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS">&nbsp;Roy</FONT></SPAN></P>
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