From owner-ibis Thu Feb 1 21:36:05 2001 Received: from cisco.com (ups.cisco.com [171.69.18.21]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f125a4H05414 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from ups.cisco.com (ups.cisco.com [171.69.18.21]) by cisco.com (8.8.8/2.6/Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA25509 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:32:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102020532.VAA25509@cisco.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:32:09 -0800 (PST) From: Syed Huq Reply-To: Syed Huq Subject: PCI and IBIS To: ibis-users@eda.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: G0mOSkpT5rIIROzBCITfNg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.1 CDE Version 1.2.1 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc IBISgurus: The PCI spec mentions of multiple Vmeas data points based on Rising edge or Falling edge. Since IBIS has only one Vmeas for any Output/I_O etc, how does the model provider spec the PCI Vmeas values ? Regards, Syed Cisco Systems, Inc From owner-ibis Fri Feb 2 05:25:03 2001 Received: from geneva.cereva.com (hidden-user@[12.40.56.2]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f12DP0H07406 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 05:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from spawn.cereva.com (spawn.cereva.com [192.168.4.24]) by geneva.cereva.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16634; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:21:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by SPAWN with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:21:16 -0500 Message-ID: <8010912471E0D41189930090278D4E4811F798@SPAWN> From: "Haller, Robert" To: "'Syed Huq'" , ibis-users@eda.org Subject: RE: PCI and IBIS Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 08:20:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Syed, I have seen model providers pick one of the Vmeas data points (rising edge) then insert as a comment the falling edge. It is left up the the user to figure out what to do next. Some tools, SQ for instance allows you to insert the resultant time point into a translated model. With a little manual intervention this PCI spec problem is handled. A better approach would change IBIS to accept rising and fallig data. Othewise change the PCI spec :-) Another capability I would suggest adding to IBIS, is the capability for Fast and Slow Vmeas. This will be useful for HSTL. Regards, Bob Bob HAller Cereva Networks -----Original Message----- From: Syed Huq [mailto:shuq@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:32 AM To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: PCI and IBIS IBISgurus: The PCI spec mentions of multiple Vmeas data points based on Rising edge or Falling edge. Since IBIS has only one Vmeas for any Output/I_O etc, how does the model provider spec the PCI Vmeas values ? Regards, Syed Cisco Systems, Inc From owner-ibis Mon Feb 12 16:33:14 2001 Received: from ns1.mentorg.com (ns1.mentorg.com [192.94.38.65]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1D0X1n04769; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com by ns1.mentorg.com (8.8.8/CF5.40F) id QAA23136; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:29:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mentor.com (bob.wv.mentorg.com [147.34.83.63]) by svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 15MYW92C; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:29:03 -0800 Sender: bobr@ns1.mentorg.com Message-ID: <3A887FCC.867092D6@mentor.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:29:00 -0800 From: Bob Ross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ibis@eda.org, ibis-users@eda.org, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com Subject: EUROPEAN IBIS SUMMIT MEETING 2ND ANNOUNCEMENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All: This is the second announcement for the European IBIS Summit Meeting to be held on Friday, March 16, 2001 after the DATE 2001 exhibition in Munich Germany. The purpose is to promote communication among users and developers of IBIS models in Europe. The meeting is free and open to everyone. Refreshments and a hot lunch will be provided to all attendees. Below is more information. We have four presentations so far. Bob Ross Mentor Graphics E U R O P E A N I B I S S U M M I T M E E T I N G S E C O N D A N N O U N C E M E N T Time/Date: 8:30 PM - 5:00 PM, Friday, March 16, 2001 Location: ASTRON HOTEL/Neue Messe Eggenfeldener Strasse 100 Munich, Germany This hotel is near the DATE 2001 Conference Content: Presentations and Discussions Purpose: Solicit and Exchange IBIS Model Related Information and Ideas Sponsors: Cadence Design, Innoveda, Mentor Graphics, Zuken DATE 2001: March 13 - 16, 2001. The IBIS meeting is scheduled the day after the DATE 2001 exhibition ends. Location: International Congress Center, Munich, Germany See http://www.date-conference.com for more information. BACKGROUND We have been holding interesting European IBIS Summit Meetings for the last three years. This year we are planning another meeting to include: Submitted Presentations on IBIS Topics (See below) Information about IBIS Version 3.2 and Activities Less formal Ad Hoc Presentations and Discussions IBIS Questions and Answers Below is an invitation to register and also to submit presentations. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS Model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the European IBIS Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register with the information below (deadline, March 9, 2001): Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Send to: Karine Loudet (karine_loudet@mentor.com) +33 1 40 94 74 54 CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS experiences or issues. Some suggested subjects of interest are: IBIS Model Development Experiences Company IBIS Standards and Requirements Generating and Validating IBIS Models Future IBIS Requirements EMC/EMI IBIS Issues Format of Presentation: Overhead Projections Time: 15-30 Minutes Electronic Archival: We request electronic versions so that the presentations can be archived and also made available to non-attendees. Formats used in the past have been text, Power Point, Word, Postscript, and Acrobat. Electronic presentations should be made available by March 6, 2001. Otherwise the presentor will be expected to provide 50 copies for distribution. If you plan a presentation, please supply Title: Presenter: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Estimate Time: Send this to: Karine Loudet (karine_loudet@mentor.com) Bob Ross (bob_ross@mentor.com) AGENDA The agenda includes presentations, discussions. A free lunch is scheduled for all attendees. Several presentations submitted so far are listed: - Parasitic IC Emission Modeling Etienne Sicard, National Institute of Applied Science, Toulouse, France - DOGEN, A Siemens Internal Model Tool, Extension 1999 - 2001 Hans Pichlmaier, Siemens, Germany - Title to be Determined Eckhard Lenski, Siemens, Germany - LVDS Modeling Hazem Hegany and Mohammed Korany, Mentor Graphics, Egypt FOR FURTHER INFORMATION: Bob Ross, Chair, EIA/IBIS Open Forum Mentor Graphics 8005 S.W. Boeckman Road Wilsonville, Oregon 97070 USA (503) 685-0732 bob_ross@mentor.com From owner-ibis Wed Feb 21 08:36:35 2001 Received: from unknown-147.101.pilot.net (unknown-147-101.pilot.net [198.232.147.101]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1LGaXn27152 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:36:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown-24-5.pilot.net (unknown-24-5.pilot.net [206.189.24.5]) by unknown-147.101.pilot.net with ESMTP id IAA04351 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswaumsxbhmedge.med.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unknown-24-5.pilot.net with ESMTP id IAA23731 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by amermsx.med.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:31:49 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Mathew, Elizabeth (MED)" To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: Question regarding ICX Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:31:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello IBIS Gurus, I had a question regarding the ICX tool (Mentor Graphics Signal Integirty Simulation Tool). From where does the tool get the data regarding VHmax, VHmin, VLmax and VLmin which you see in the graph? Thanks, Elizabeth Elizabeth Mathew Signal Integrity Expert, Global Electrical Technology Center, GE Medical Systems, Phone:(262)544-3776 Fax:(262)548-2315 From owner-ibis Wed Feb 21 09:00:55 2001 Received: from relay1.wv.mentorg.com (relay1.mentorg.com [192.94.38.42]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1LH0rn27311 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:00:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com by relay1.wv.mentorg.com (8.8.8/CF5.40F) id IAA22294; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:56:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mentor.com (bob.wv.mentorg.com [147.34.83.63]) by svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 15MYYF36; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:56:48 -0800 Sender: bobr@relay1.mentorg.com Message-ID: <3A93F34E.B9822BF@mentor.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:56:46 -0800 From: Bob Ross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mathew, Elizabeth (MED)" CC: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: Re: Question regarding ICX References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Elizabeth: You need to contact Mentor Graphics directly. We do not discuss vendor tools on the IBIS reflectors. Bob Ross Mentor Graphics "Mathew, Elizabeth (MED)" wrote: > > Hello IBIS Gurus, > I had a question regarding the ICX tool (Mentor > Graphics Signal Integirty Simulation Tool). From where does the tool get > the data regarding VHmax, VHmin, VLmax and VLmin which you see in the > graph? > > Thanks, > Elizabeth > > Elizabeth Mathew > Signal Integrity Expert, > Global Electrical Technology Center, > GE Medical Systems, > Phone:(262)544-3776 > Fax:(262)548-2315 > From owner-ibis Wed Feb 23 07:21:20 2000 Received: from mxqueue.easystreet.com (mxqueue.easystreet.com [206.26.36.46]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e1NFLFX00876 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:21:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from easystreet01.easystreet.com (easystreet.com [206.26.36.40]) by mxqueue.easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1LHLxR27933 for ; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:21:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from REISLING (dsl-206-103-49-48.easystreet.com [206.103.49.48]) by easystreet01.easystreet.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f1LHLm516832; Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:21:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010221092053.00a51cf0@pop.easystreet.com> X-Sender: dmacemon@pop.easystreet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:23:26 -0800 To: "Mathew, Elizabeth (MED)" , ibis-users@eda.org From: Dave Macemon Subject: Re: Question regarding ICX In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello Elizabeth, The parameters you're asking about are derived from the IBIS model you have loaded. There is a good explanation about this in the ICX IBIS User's Guide around pages 4-6. Hope this helps, davem At 10:31 AM 2/21/2001 -0600, Mathew, Elizabeth (MED) wrote: >Hello IBIS Gurus, > I had a question regarding the ICX tool (Mentor >Graphics Signal Integirty Simulation Tool). From where does the tool get >the data regarding VHmax, VHmin, VLmax and VLmin which you see in the >graph? > >Thanks, >Elizabeth > > >Elizabeth Mathew >Signal Integrity Expert, >Global Electrical Technology Center, >GE Medical Systems, >Phone:(262)544-3776 >Fax:(262)548-2315 > === Dave Macemon SiQual, A division of Stilwell Baker davem@siqual.com phone (503)885-1231 fax (503)885-0550 http://www.siqual.com/ From owner-ibis Wed Feb 23 10:59:12 2000 Received: from smitty.utmc.com (smitty.utmc.com [12.10.147.52]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e1NIxBX02520 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from pony.utmc.utc.com ([10.1.1.1]) by smitty.utmc.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:46:30 -0700 Received: from utmc.aeroflex.com (neon.utmc.utc.com [172.24.106.12]) by pony.utmc.utc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 1QD5MFYM; Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:47:30 -0700 Sender: haynes Message-ID: <3A959702.F8A6046B@utmc.aeroflex.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 15:47:30 -0700 From: Greg Haynes Reply-To: Greg.Haynes@utmc.aeroflex.com Organization: UTMC Microelectronic Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "ibis-users@eda.org" Subject: What determines Vref & Rref, R_fixture & V_fixture? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm starting to use s2ibis2 to create models for a gate array library. I don't understand the significance of the Rref and Vref sub-parameters under [Model]. We characterize propagation delays for the I/O buffers in SPICE for a range of capacitive loads on the output pad. It isn't clear what values to use for Rref and Vref (or Cref for that matter). Similarly, how do I determine the values to use for R_fixture and V_fixture with [Rising Waveform] and [Falling Waveform]? -Greg Haynes UTMC From owner-ibis Fri Feb 23 11:34:46 2001 Received: from ns01.newbridge.com (ns01.newbridge.com [192.75.23.67]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1NJYij00691 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 11:34:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by ns01.newbridge.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA13348 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:25:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from portal1.newbridge.com(192.75.23.76), claiming to be "kanata-mh1.ca.newbridge.com" via SMTP by ns01.newbridge.com, id smtpdAAA0TCMBh; Fri Feb 23 14:25:19 2001 Received: from kanmail01.ca.newbridge.com by kanata-mh1.ca.newbridge.com with ESMTP for ibis-users@eda.org; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:31:40 -0500 Received: from cid.alcatel.com ([138.120.63.177]) by kanmail01.ca.newbridge.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5841 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:31:39 -0500 Sender: "Jason Leung" Message-Id: <3A96BAAC.6BA89828@cid.alcatel.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:31:56 -0500 From: Jason Leung Organization: Alcatel X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: subscribe References: <3A96B86E.2E9BF6F1@newbridge.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7661FAF245258419054CECE8" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7661FAF245258419054CECE8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subscribe thanks --------------7661FAF245258419054CECE8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jleung.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jason Leung Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jleung.vcf" begin:vcard n:Leung;Jason tel;fax:613-5993642 tel;work:613-7844425 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Alcatel CID;EMC ENGINEERING adr:;;600 March Road;Kanata;Ontario;K2K 2E6;CANADA version:2.1 email;internet:jleung@cid.alcatel.com title:SI/EMC ENGINEER x-mozilla-cpt:;-31088 fn:Jason Leung end:vcard --------------7661FAF245258419054CECE8-- From owner-ibis Sat Feb 24 12:11:29 2001 Received: from s6.mailbank.com (proxy.mailbank.com [208.49.167.126]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1OKBSj05222 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:11:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from labonte.com (bsg-ma9a-246.rasserver.net [207.221.67.246]) by s6.mailbank.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1OKAxZ16943; Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:11:00 -0800 Message-ID: <3A981559.6C7A2FB7@labonte.com> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:11:05 -0500 From: Mike LaBonte X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD BDP81800 (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg.Haynes@utmc.aeroflex.com CC: "ibis-users@eda.org" Subject: Re: What determines Vref & Rref, R_fixture & V_fixture? References: <3A959702.F8A6046B@utmc.aeroflex.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg, If the standard delay test for your part requires only a capacitive load, then give C_ref but omit R_ref and V_ref. Use the latter only if the buffer must be tested with a pullup or pulldown resistor. You will have to choose just one capacitive load to give as C_ref. But this should be the load that was used to make measurements that went into the timing info for the part. R_fixture and V_fixture have been discussed before on this list, but I think the best advice (from Stephen Peters) was to consult the latest IBIS Cookbook linked from: http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/tools.htm You will not find "R_fixture" in there, but Table 1 gives recommended values for waveform fixtures. Mike LaBonte Greg Haynes wrote: > > I'm starting to use s2ibis2 to create models > for a gate array library. I don't understand > the significance of the Rref and Vref sub-parameters > under [Model]. We characterize propagation delays > for the I/O buffers in SPICE for a range of > capacitive loads on the output pad. It isn't > clear what values to use for Rref and Vref > (or Cref for that matter). > > Similarly, how do I determine the values to > use for R_fixture and V_fixture with > [Rising Waveform] and [Falling Waveform]? > > -Greg Haynes > UTMC From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 01:10:35 2001 Received: from gorilla.mchh.siemens.de (gorilla.mchh.siemens.de [194.138.158.18]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1R9AYj18924 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from moody.mchh.siemens.de (mail2.mchh.siemens.de [194.138.158.226]) by gorilla.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10554 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:10:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from icn.siemens.de ([139.21.8.237]) by moody.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07053 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:10:06 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <3A9B6EEA.BF9375C0@icn.siemens.de> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:10:02 +0100 From: Katja Zuleeg Organization: Siemens AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 06:16:38 2001 Received: from beamer.mchh.siemens.de (beamer.mchh.siemens.de [194.138.158.163]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1REGaj20426 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from blues.mchh.siemens.de (mail2.mchh.siemens.de [194.138.158.227]) by beamer.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03657 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:16:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from mchh273e.demchh201e.icn.siemens.de ([139.21.200.83]) by blues.mchh.siemens.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA25947 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:16:39 +0100 (MET) Received: by MCHH273E with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:16:38 +0100 Message-ID: From: Koller Katja To: "'ibis-users@eda.org'" Subject: subscribe Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:16:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Katja.Koller@icn.siemens.de From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 08:59:58 2001 Received: from barry.engagenet ([207.227.33.97]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RGxvj21229 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:59:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by BARRY with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:11 -0600 Message-ID: From: Ted Tontis To: "'ibis-users@eda.org'" Subject: signup Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 11:00:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ted Tontis Design Engineer Engage Networks Inc. TTontis@engagenet.com PH 414.273.7600 Ext. 7607 From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 12:08:49 2001 Received: from relay1.wv.mentorg.com (relay1.mentorg.com [192.94.38.42]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RK8lj22048; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com by relay1.wv.mentorg.com (8.8.8/CF5.40F) id KAA01512; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mentor.com (bob.wv.mentorg.com [147.34.83.63]) by svr-orw-exc-02.wv.mentorg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id FW9BF9RS; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:59:09 -0800 Sender: bobr@relay1.mentorg.com Message-ID: <3A9BF8FC.B3569891@mentor.com> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:59:08 -0800 From: Bob Ross X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ibis@eda.org, ibis-users@eda.org, si-list@silab.eng.sun.com Subject: EUROPEAN IBIS SUMMIT 3/16/01 - THIRD ANNOUNCEMENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To All: This is the third announcement for the European IBIS Summit Meeting to be held on Friday, March 16, 2001 after the DATE 2001 exhibition in Munich Germany. The purpose is to promote communication among users and developers of IBIS models in Europe. The meeting is free and open to everyone. Refreshments and a hot lunch will be provided to all attendees. Below is more information. We have approximately 11 presentations so far listed below. Some titles are tentative. If you have not done so, please respond to Karine Loudet if you are attending. Bob Ross Mentor Graphics E U R O P E A N I B I S S U M M I T M E E T I N G T H I R D A N N O U N C E M E N T Time/Date: 8:30 PM - 5:00 PM, Friday, March 16, 2001 Location: ASTRON HOTEL/Neue Messe Eggenfeldener Strasse 100 Munich, Germany This hotel is near the DATE 2001 Conference Content: Presentations and Discussions Purpose: Solicit and Exchange IBIS Model Related Information and Ideas Sponsors: Cadence Design, Innoveda, Mentor Graphics, Zuken DATE 2001: March 13 - 16, 2001. The IBIS meeting is scheduled the day after the DATE 2001 exhibition ends. Location: International Congress Center, Munich, Germany See http://www.date-conference.com for more information. BACKGROUND We have been holding interesting European IBIS Summit Meetings for the last three years. This year we are planning another meeting to include: Submitted Presentations on IBIS Topics (See below) Information about IBIS Version 3.2 and Activities Less formal Ad Hoc Presentations and Discussions IBIS Questions and Answers Below is an invitation to register and also to submit presentations. CALL FOR PARTICIPANTS People involved in IBIS Model development, EDA tool development, and digital circuit design are invited to participate in the European IBIS Summit meeting. If you plan to participate, please register with the information below (deadline, March 9, 2001): Name: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Send to: Karine Loudet (karine_loudet@mentor.com) +33 1 40 94 74 54 CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS We are seeking presentations from individuals who have IBIS experiences or issues. Some suggested subjects of interest are: IBIS Model Development Experiences Company IBIS Standards and Requirements Generating and Validating IBIS Models Future IBIS Requirements EMC/EMI IBIS Issues Format of Presentation: Overhead Projections Time: 15-30 Minutes Electronic Archival: We request electronic versions so that the presentations can be archived and also made available to non-attendees. Formats used in the past have been text, Power Point, Word, Postscript, and Acrobat. Electronic presentations should be made available by March 6, 2001. Otherwise the presentor will be expected to provide 50 copies for distribution. If you plan a presentation, please supply Title: Presenter: E-mail address: Company: Telephone: Estimate Time: Send this to: Karine Loudet (karine_loudet@mentor.com) Bob Ross (bob_ross@mentor.com) AGENDA The agenda includes presentations, discussions. A free lunch is scheduled for all attendees. Some titles have not been finalized: - EMC Standardization Progress (title to be determined) Jean-Claude Perrin, Texas Instruments, France - EMC Models (title to be determined) Christian Marot, Siemens, France - Parasitic IC Emisson Modeling Etienne Sicard, National Institute of Applied Science, Toulouse, France - Ground-Noise Model Mariusz Faferko, Fraunhofer Institute Reliability and Microintegration, Germany - Radiated Emission Model for IC Peter Kralicek, Fraunhofer Institute Reliability and Microintegration, Germany - DOGEN, A Siemens Internal Model Tool, Extension 1999 - 2001 Hans Pichlmaier, Siemens AG, Germany - Experiences with and Tips for IBIS Models Eckhard Lenski, Siemens AG, Germany - IBIS Bus Modeling (title to be determined) Bernhard Unger, Siemens AG, Germany - LVDS Modeling Hazem Hegany and Mohammed Korany, Mentor Graphics, Egypt - (title to be determined) John Barrie, Zuken, England - IBIS-X Arpad Muranyi, Intel, USA FOR FURTHER INFORMATION: Bob Ross, Chair, EIA/IBIS Open Forum Mentor Graphics 8005 S.W. Boeckman Road Wilsonville, Oregon 97070 USA (503) 685-0732 bob_ross@mentor.com From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 15:34:47 2001 Received: from ausxc07.us.dell.com (ausxc07.us.dell.com [143.166.99.215]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RNYkj22752 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by ausxc07.us.dell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:31:12 -0600 Message-ID: From: Girish_Singh@Dell.com To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: Subscribe! Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:31:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -Girish Simulation Engineer Signal Integrity Group Dell Computer Corporation. (512)-723-6210 E-Mail:Girish_Singh@Dell.com www.dell.com From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 15:34:37 2001 Received: from ausxc07.us.dell.com (ausxc07.us.dell.com [143.166.99.215]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1RNYaj22750 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:34:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by ausxc07.us.dell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:33:35 -0600 Message-ID: From: Girish_Singh@Dell.com To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: PCI/PCIX STANDARD IBIS MODELS... Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:33:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, Does anyone have a standard PCI and PCIX IBIS Model? I have a standard PCIX Model but the test load seems to be too heavy for the Weak Buffer(Tval(max)Rising/Falling Edge Test Load).I made my PCIX Model from the PCIX Bus Specifications,Rev 1.0. Thanks in advance for the help. -Girish From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 17:24:22 2001 Received: from ausxc10.us.dell.com (ausxc10.us.dell.com [143.166.98.229]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S1OLj23343 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:24:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by ausxc10.us.dell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:04:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: Girish_Singh@Dell.com To: ibis-users@eda.org Subject: Subscribe! Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:29:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -Girish Simulation Engineer Signal Integrity Group Dell Computer Corporation. (512)-723-6210 E-Mail:Girish_Singh@Dell.com www.dell.com From owner-ibis Tue Feb 27 17:25:36 2001 Received: from ausxc10.us.dell.com (ausxc10.us.dell.com [143.166.98.229]) by server.eda.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f1S1PZj23359 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by ausxc10.us.dell.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:05:04 -0600 Message-ID: From: Girish_Singh@Dell.com To: ibis-users@vhdl.org Subject: PCI?PCIX STANDARD IBIS MODELS... Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:35:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, Does anyone have a standard PCI and PCIX IBIS Model? I have a standard PCIX Model but the test load seems to be too heavy for the Weak Buffer(Tval(max)Rising/Falling Edge Test Load).I made my PCIX Model from the PCIX Bus Specifications,Rev 1.0. Thanks in advance for the help. -Girish Simulation Engineer Signal Integrity Group Dell Computer Corporation. (512)-723-6210 E-Mail:Girish_Singh@Dell.com www.dell.com